Question for people who drive a Toyota Supra ONLY!!!?

What do you think of the people that drive tuned up Toyota Cressidas. refering to the 1989 to 1992 Cressidas. Would you refer them as ricers or proper tuners. I am talking about the people that tune up the car properly, not gt wing and stickers. I drive a 1992 Toyota Cressida Grande and it is PROPERLY tuned up...
When I said properly tuned, I meant it is not a ricer

I drive two Supras. 1988 and 1989. The 1988, pushing around 450whp, full race car. Two years of building, approximately 1,200 hours of labor/tuning.

That said:
There is no way to "properly" tune up a car, unless you go to Midas, and get a tune up. Your car is properly tuned, from the factory. That's why they release it, in the form that it was originally purchased in.

Otherwise, regardless of what car you have, and this includes my car, they're just modified. And as everyone has their own taste, they're modified to specific taste.

Also, unless you actually spent hours and hours on your car, tuning each detail of it, such as the camber angle, the brake resistance, your throttle position, etc....you have not tuned anything on your car. A few hours on a dyno, is not tuning your car. It's tuning one aspect of your vehicle. Just because you know when your turbo kit kicks in, doesn't mean a thing.

At 2600 rpm, second gear, what % load are your fuel injectors under? What g does it pull on a skid pad? What kg is your spring rate, and what testing did you do, to choose that rate?

If you've tuned your car, you'd have these answers.

But, you asked two questions. What do we think of the drivers, and what do we think of the cars?

For the cars, I don't care in the slightest. Build whatever you want, modify whatever you want. If you've done the work yourself, awesome. If you paid someone else to do it, and you just spit out the info that they gave you....why are you proud of it? All you did was spend money. Anyone can do that.

For the drivers, if you start referring to your car as a tuner, and you haven't really done anything but bolt stuff on it...you're as ricer as anyone else. And I'm immediately not interested in your car.

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